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  1. Joanne Mahar
    25 October 2009 @ 5:38 pm

    I’m thrilled to find this site as I love the old hymns and saddened to see so many churches drop them from their services.
    I was born in the Congo of missionary parents and had the joy of seeing the words of hymns that my Dad was translating sung with enthusiasm by people coming out of paganism.
    I’m a retired missionary now writing from a rich source of experiences, presently setting up a blog and web page.

    • rcottrill
      26 October 2009 @ 6:53 am

      As to folks missing the old hymns, that has been my experience too. And the longer churches go without using them, the more hymnologically illiterate they become. Often, when I’m invited to speak at a church I request a closing hymn that relates to my message. But sometimes I’ll hear, “Our pianist doesn’t know that one, and our people don’t either” (when it’s a song found in almost every hymnal for decades).

      Regarding your setting up of a blog and a web page, good for you! I’ve had a web site (Wordwise Bible Studies) for years, but had little idea what a “blog” was until I started this one late last May. I read through Blogging for Dummies, and did a lot of underlining, and also got a lot of start-up help from the publisher that’s producing a book I’ve written. My son is very computer savy, and has been a great resource. He and his wife are missionaries in Mexico. All of that to say I wish you well, and it can be done!

  2. Joanne Mahar
    25 October 2009 @ 5:38 pm

    I’m thrilled to find this site as I love the old hymns and saddened to see so many churches drop them from their services.
    I was born in the Congo of missionary parents and had the joy of seeing the words of hymns that my Dad was translating sung with enthusiasm by people coming out of paganism.
    I’m a retired missionary now writing from a rich source of experiences, presently setting up a blog and web page.

    • rcottrill
      26 October 2009 @ 6:53 am

      As to folks missing the old hymns, that has been my experience too. And the longer churches go without using them, the more hymnologically illiterate they become. Often, when I’m invited to speak at a church I request a closing hymn that relates to my message. But sometimes I’ll hear, “Our pianist doesn’t know that one, and our people don’t either” (when it’s a song found in almost every hymnal for decades).

      Regarding your setting up of a blog and a web page, good for you! I’ve had a web site (Wordwise Bible Studies) for years, but had little idea what a “blog” was until I started this one late last May. I read through Blogging for Dummies, and did a lot of underlining, and also got a lot of start-up help from the publisher that’s producing a book I’ve written. My son is very computer savy, and has been a great resource. He and his wife are missionaries in Mexico. All of that to say I wish you well, and it can be done!

  3. Iggy Antiochus
    25 October 2010 @ 7:50 am

    One hymn historian postured that rather than hymns being sung in bars, what was once “Bar Form” or AAB turned into “It must have been sung in bars” by those who didn’t know any better.

    So, for a hymn like “A Mighty Fortress”

    A:
    A mighty fortress is our God,
    A bulwark never failing;

    A:
    Our helper He, amid the flood
    Of mortal ills prevailing:

    B:
    For still our ancient foe
    Doth seek to work us woe;
    His craft and power are great,
    And, armed with cruel hate,
    On earth is not his equal.

    It’s an interesting thought. I like it better than Luther borrowing a drinking song and bringing it to church!

    • rcottrill
      25 October 2010 @ 7:57 am

      I heard that idea recently for the first time. Thanks for the clear explanation of it. It does sound feasible. In any event, as far as I know, Luther only used a secular melody for his hymns once. And shortly after replaced the tune with one of his own.

  4. Iggy Antiochus
    25 October 2010 @ 7:50 am

    One hymn historian postured that rather than hymns being sung in bars, what was once “Bar Form” or AAB turned into “It must have been sung in bars” by those who didn’t know any better.

    So, for a hymn like “A Mighty Fortress”

    A:
    A mighty fortress is our God,
    A bulwark never failing;

    A:
    Our helper He, amid the flood
    Of mortal ills prevailing:

    B:
    For still our ancient foe
    Doth seek to work us woe;
    His craft and power are great,
    And, armed with cruel hate,
    On earth is not his equal.

    It’s an interesting thought. I like it better than Luther borrowing a drinking song and bringing it to church!

    • rcottrill
      25 October 2010 @ 7:57 am

      I heard that idea recently for the first time. Thanks for the clear explanation of it. It does sound feasible. In any event, as far as I know, Luther only used a secular melody for his hymns once. And shortly after replaced the tune with one of his own.

  5. Jen
    25 October 2010 @ 11:38 am

    You might find this article interesting too. It also tackles the myth that Luther used bar tunes.
    http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=12198

    • rcottrill
      25 October 2010 @ 12:30 pm

      Thanks for the input. I’m sure other readers will be enlightened by the article as well.

  6. Jen
    25 October 2010 @ 11:38 am

    You might find this article interesting too. It also tackles the myth that Luther used bar tunes.
    http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=12198

    • rcottrill
      25 October 2010 @ 12:30 pm

      Thanks for the input. I’m sure other readers will be enlightened by the article as well.