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  1. Robert
    17 August 2009 @ 7:52 am

    In checking a few blogs this morning–to see what others have said about today’s hymn, “God of Our Fathers”–I more than once came across the idea that national hymns and anthems have no place in the worship services of our churches. The common argument seems to be that God is the God of all peoples, and such songs try to crowd Him into a narrow, patriotic box.

    To me, this argument is flawed. There is nothing wrong with having a national identity. It was God Himself who ordained the division of the human family into nations (Deut. 32:8; Acts 17:26). And the leaders of our countries are there by God’s appointment (Rom. 13:1-7). That nations can be aggressively acquisitive, oppressing and tyrannizing other peoples, is not implicitly the fault of having a national identity.

    All the kingdoms of the earth should praise and honour God (Ps. 68:32), and one day they will (Rev. 21:24). Meanwhile, we can surely offer thanksgiving to Him for the blessings we enjoy as a people (Ps. 103:1-2), and pray that we will fulfil the stewardship they bring in a God-honouring way. We can also pray for our nation and our national leaders as we are called to do (I Tim. 2:1-4).

    Most of our national hymns are simply versified prayers that are designed to do these things. As such, I believe they should have a place in the services of the church. They give us a way to unite in thanksgiving and in much-needed prayer for our country.

  2. George William Warren
    12 December 2010 @ 3:39 am

    Roberts Hymn lyrics were specifically intended for the 100th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence of the United States and therefore nationalistic by design. It is interesting to note that after the success of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir recording and performances of the hymn set to my Great Grandfather’s composition the arrangemnet has become sysmbolic of the Mormons search for “the place.”

    George William Warren was a Lt Colonel and served during the Civil War. He was a charter member of the “Order Of The Loyal Legion” My father George William Warren was also a LT Colonel, having served during World War I, in England with the Eighth Army Air Corp as General LeMay’s Hedquarters Squadron Commander (B17s) and In Korea. As a pastor and vocal musician I have used the hymn several times as intended for prayer on national days. My high school choir director, chose the hymn for our Bacculaueate Service, not knowing my connection to the composer, but wanting a dramatic piece.

    • rcottrill
      12 December 2010 @ 6:29 am

      Thanks very much for the insights and personal reminiscences.