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  1. Martin
    26 June 2011 @ 7:33 am

    I’ve heard that claim quite often, suspected it wasn’t all people made it out to be and not accepted it. However, it is good to hear some specifics and a reasoned argument against using this claim. Good post!

    • rcottrill
      26 June 2011 @ 8:37 am

      Thanks! Drop by any time. 🙂

  2. Timothy Benefield
    26 June 2011 @ 9:03 am

    Thanks for doing the research on this. I hate it when people bring up straw men like this, but you don’t really have the facts at hand to repudiate their story. Do you happen to have some links or a list of sources for some of this material. I would especially love to get some quotes from some of these men like Luther about NOT using carnal songs. Thank you!

    • rcottrill
      26 June 2011 @ 9:31 am

      Thanks for your comments. As far as other sites that talk about this, if you just do a search for “barroom tunes” you’ll find a number of them. I haven’t linked to them because they contain a number of inaccuracies that I’ve tried to avoid, or they come from sources whose theology I find significantly questionable at certain points. The material for today’s post was written many years ago, before there was a Web. It came mainly from books listed in my bibliography.

      Just one added thought. I’m not saying that no Christian musician, in former years, ever used a barroom song and set Christian words to it. The Salvation Army, for example, took the song “Roll Out the Barrel” (“and we’ll have a barrel of fun”), and used the tune for a song called “We’ve Got Salvation”! But I’m dealing with our traditional hymnody, the hymns and gospel songs found in the most common inter-denominational hymn books. With the 750-800 songs found there, it’s difficult to find any that can legitimately be called “barroom tunes.”

  3. SheWhiWaits
    3 July 2011 @ 10:13 am

    Thank you so much for this. I had heard the barroom argument before, probably even repeated it myself. I appreciate you setting the record straight

    • rcottrill
      3 July 2011 @ 10:14 am

      You’re most welcome. Drop by any time. 🙂

  4. thecheekyanglican
    16 June 2012 @ 10:49 pm

    Reblogged this on thecheekyanglican and commented:
    I simply love your blog. In our bulletins I have a sidebar where I post interesting (to me anyway!) tidbits about the “hymns we sing” — and our closing hymn for tomorrow is Aurelia — about which you wrote the perfect piece on meter! Then I started reading your other posts….how many times have we all held an “air beer” while we sang some of the more perky tunes in choir practice? 🙂
    Thanks for a great blog.

    • rcottrill
      17 June 2012 @ 6:55 am

      Ha! Well, I guess I know what “air beer”is…maybe–though I don’t imbibe. 🙂 You’re welcome to make use of what you find on the site, though it would help me if, from time to time you noted the URL of the blog, so others would be encouraged to visit. Great to have you drop by. Do so any time, and we can clink glasses of air ginger ale together.