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  1. gracereigns
    28 February 2010 @ 8:30 pm

    ***** It’s a definite “5-star” article! Should be on the “required reading” list for ALL Bible college students (and especially for those with Pastoral Studies and Church Music majors). This is a “slam-dunk”, Robert! Nice work! (I do hope you’re not writing these lists on your church bulletin during the sermon each week… especially if you’re the preacher!)

    And now for a question (why should I miss an opportunity to learn?) that has often puzzled me about one of my own “Top 20” hymns: When singing “And Can It Be That I Should Gain”, tune: SAGINA, most congregations seem to use vs. 1 as the words to the Refrain for every verse! Has my experience been warped, in that I have always heard each verse of the Refrain match the preceding text? (i.e., sing vs. 1, then sing the Refrain for vs. 1 using the words, “Amazing Love! How can it be…?”; sing vs. 2, then sing the Refrain for vs. 2 using the words, “‘Tis mercy all, let earth adore!/Let angel minds inquire no more”, etc.) Your thoughts?

    ps #2 (I “cheated” by adding an extra question;-)) What hymns are in *your* “Top 10” or “Top 20” list, Robert? (We KNOW that “In the Garden” or “Whispering Hope” are toward the top…)

    • rcottrill
      1 March 2010 @ 9:07 am

      Thanks for your enthusiasm. I’ll try to comment on a few things you’ve said. (Glad you enjoyed “metre” and my other colourful labours to write Canadian. It probably gave my publisher fits when they went through the manuscript for my book on Christmas carols. They had to Americanize me!)

      As to Canadian hymn books: Most of our hymnals are published in America. One reason for this is that quite a few denominations have their headquarters there. Another is economic. Publishing hymn books is costly, and the publishing industry in Canada is quite small. And even those few that are published here have mostly British and American songs in them. However, here’s a sampling of what I have in my collection:

      The Canadian Hymnal, published by William Briggs (Toronto) in 1911
      The Methodist Hymn and Tune Book, published by William Briggs (Toronto) in 1917
      The Hymnary of the United Church of Canada, published by the United Church Publishing House (Toronto) in 1930
      The Book of Common Praise–Being the Hymn Book of the Church of England in Canada, published by Oxford University Press (in Toronto) in 1938
      The Hymn Book–of the Anglican Church of Canada and the United Church of Canada, published in 1971 (couldn’t find a publisher listed)

      A surprising number of hymns have what I call a “Canadian Connection,” written by Canadians, or people living in Canada. I hope to eventually post a list in my Topics section, but here’s a sampling:

      Crown Him With Many Crowns, was written by Matthew Bridges (1800-1894), who spent many years in Canada. I’ll Go Where You Want Me to Go, was written by Mary Houghton Brown, born in Canada in 1856. Unto the Hills, was written by John Douglas Sutherland Campbell (1845-1914), the former Governor General of Canada. So Send I You, and many other hymns, were written by Canadian Edith Margaret Clarkson (1915-2008). The Ninety and Nine, was written by Elizabeth Cecelia Douglas Clephane of Scotland (1830-1869), about her wayward brother, who resided in Fergus, Ontario. Work, for the Night Is Coming, was written by Anna Louisa Walker Coghill (1836-1907), who lived for a time in Sarnia, Ontario. Gentle Mary Laid Her Child, is a carol written by Joseph Simpson Cook (1859-1933). He was educated at McGill University, and served with the Methodists and the United Church of Canada. God Who Touchest Earth with Beauty, written for campers by Mary Susanne Edgar (1889-1973) of Ontario. My Jesus, I Love Thee, by William Ralph Featherstone (1846-1873), of Montreal, was likely written when he was converted at the age of 16. Breathe on Me, Breath of God, by Edwin Hatch (1835-1889), an Englishman who served for a time as professor of classics at Trinity College, in Toronto. All Your Anxiety, was given to us by Edward Henry Joy (1871-1949), who was for years a Salvation Army Officer in Winnipeg. God Will Take Care of You; and His Eye Is on the Sparrow, were written by Civilla Durfee Martin (1866-1948), born in Nova Scotia. Jesus, Wondrous Saviour, by Daniel Arthur McGregor (1847-1890), was the great theme hymn of McMaster University, in Hamilton, Ontario, in its more evangelical days. Burdens Are Lifted at Calvary; and Why Did They Nail Him to Calvary’s Tree? are by John M. Moore (1925- ), a pastor in Toronto. Is It the Crowning Day? was written by Henry Ostrom (1862-1941), a pastor and evangelist, born in Ontario. What a Friend We Have in Jesus, was written by Joseph Medlicott Scriven (1819-1886), of Port Hope, Ontario. The Wonder of It All; and the music for I’d Rather Have Jesus are by George Beverly Shea (1909- ), born in Winchester, Ontario. Deeper and Deeper; God Is Waiting in the Silence; God Understands; Joy in Service Jesus; Saved! The Saviour Can Solve Every Problem; The Song of the Soul Set Free; and Then Jesus Came were written by Oswald Jeffrey Smith (1889-1986), a Toronto pastor who wrote something like 1,200 hymns. He likely ranks as the most prolific author of Canadian hymns. What, Never Thirst Again? (also called simply Never Thirst Again) was written by Salvation Army officer, May Agnew Stephens (1865-1935), born in Kingston, Ontario.

      As to And Can It Be? Yes, some hymn books take the end of stanza one as the refrain for all the stanzas to follow. Can’t exactly say why. It may have something to do with saving a bit of space. Another time when this is commonly done really bugs me–with the carol What Child Is This? The first stanza ends: “This, this is Christ the King, / Whom shepherds guard and angels sing; / Haste, haste, to bring Him laud, / The Babe, the Son of Mary.” Then, some use that as the refrain for the other stanzas, missing this at the end of stanza two: “Nails, spear shall pierce Him through, / The cross be borne for me, for you. / Hail, hail the Word made flesh, / The Babe, the Son of Mary.”

      Regarding my Top 10 favourite hymns. Well, along with In the Garden, and Whispering Hope, and maybe Beautiful Isle of Somewhere (tongue in cheek), I have many favourites. Can’t give you a definitive list. But a few of the many that have meant a great deal to me are: It Is Well with My Soul; Be Still, My Soul; Jesus Loves Even Me; and Take the Name of Jesus with You.

  2. Carol Blair
    1 March 2010 @ 5:33 pm

    These are all excellent ideas. Something that I have found to be very effective in my Hymnology classes and seminars is this: I carefully go over the *words* of hymns — explaining words such as Sabaoth, Ebenezer, and panoply; and giving Scriptural backgrounds and foundations, where applicable. Sabaoth (and the entire hymn “A Mighty Fortress”) comes from Psalm 46. Ebenezer and the story behind it comes from I Samuel 7. The phrase “Great is Thy Faithfulness” comes from Lamentations 3:22-23. Several hymns refer to the fire and cloudy pillars and the manna from the Israelites’ wilderness wanderings. “Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven” comes straight from Psalm 103. “O Worship the King” (all 6 verses) comes straight from Psalm 104. “O God, Our Help in Ages Past” (all 9 verses) comes straight from Psalm 90. I could go on and on. When people see what the words mean and the Scriptural foundations of hymns, they sing with understanding and see the importance of hymns for today.

    • rcottrill
      1 March 2010 @ 5:49 pm

      The words you mention do need explaining. (Some editors replace them with other terms, seemingly on the assumption that folks aren’t intelligent enough to understand if the words are explained. (It would help if a hymn book put a Scripture reference under the hymn for words such as Ebenezer.)

      One time in class I introduced the gospel song There’s Honey in the Rock. One student mocked the song, saying it was a goofy idea for a theme. But I pointed out that it’s in the Bible and that gave him quite a different attitude.

  3. Ed Hyland
    2 March 2010 @ 9:22 pm

    Try singing How Great Thou Art to the tune of Finlandia only finish with “How great Thou art, my God How great Thou art.” According to our UMH metrical index, “How Great Thou Art” is irregular and “Be Still My Soul” is 11.10.11.10.11.10 so I was surprised to find that it works. When I first realized this I considered this revelation was a gift God gave just to me and one would never think to put those together. Since then I’ve seen both hymns listed as the same meter as well as many more (O Holy Night) for instance.

    By the way, Robert Morgan’s story on “Be Still My Soul” from his book “Then Sings My Soul” will touch your soul.

    Another one to try is the two verses of an old hymn “I Would Be True” to one verse and chorus of the tune of Londonderry Air. It was sung that way at Princess Diana’s funeral.

    • rcottrill
      3 March 2010 @ 7:58 am

      H-m-m… Well, “I Would be True” certainly fits Londonderry Air, if we use two stanzas each time. The other pairings seem more of a stretch. I’m loathe to lose the last couple of lines of the text of “Be Still, My Soul” to accomodate it to the tune for “How Great Thou Art.” And “O Holy Night” doesn’t quite fit the tune for either of these. Close, but for me all three work best with the tunes they have. Thanks for sharing though. And your idea of Methodist churches featuring Tindley and his songs in Black History month sounds like a good one. Maybe someone will read your comment here and give it a try.

  4. gracereigns
    4 March 2010 @ 12:18 am

    How thankful I am, and we are (your faithful readers) for those church bulletins and inserts, Robert… I trust that your church secretary knows that she’s stacking up her treasures in heaven by printing & folding all of those bulletins each week! (Do you happen to have a separate sketch blog for the Spanish galleon sketches, et al.? I’d love to see them — I have NO doubt that they’re good work, as is this blog on hymns. I’m thinking that perhaps your earliest practice sketching in church was… doing caricatures of the grown-ups in the choir, as well as an occasional quick sketch of soloists! 😆 )

    Thanks for sharing with us several of your “favourites”! I, too, love “Take the Name of Jesus With You”. When I was in early elementary school the church our family attended always sang the first verse of it Sunday evenings after the closing prayer — often the pianist would drop out when the congregation reached the chorus, and so I grew to love hearing it sung a cappella (and now, of course, am confident that a cappella music will be what I hear, nano-seconds from entering Heaven). It’s really been just the last 10 years or so that I’ve especially grown to love the not just the 1st verse of that Gospel song, but ALL of the verses! “Hope of Earth, and Joy of Heav’n!” YES!!!

    A few additional comments (sorry for hijacking your blog here) on this great article on hymn-singing: I like the occasional use of a verse or two of a hymn being used as a responsive reading, however, I think that the worship director should be fairly comfortable in leading such a reading — a few churches I’ve visited where the song leader announced that part of the next hymn would be read responsively seemed to provoke a response similar to advising the congregation that the first half of the message would be given in Chinese ~ a very interesting mixed response indeed.

    Your suggestion that perhaps a little time be devoted each month to singing congregational favorites brought to mind one innovative worship director who did that very thing the 5th Sunday of the month! People really grew to look forward to it — some keeping 3×5 cards/lists on their fridge doors for listing hymn favorites and page #s, so as to be all ready when the 5th Sunday came!

    Suggestion #12 ~ re: “Canned” pre-service music nearly caused at least one reader to collapse in shock while reading this post. Surely you must be thinking of churches with NO musical instruments available as candidates for canned prelude/postlude music, right? (Ha!) A young person studying the piano/organ, and with enough ability to play the 4 parts of a hymns with correct notes and proper tempo can be a possible solution for churches that believe they are not able to have “live” prelude/postlude music. I realize that suggesting a young person play in a service is a potential “can of worms” (but a relatively smallish can) to some congregations who believe that every note is to be played flawlessly 110% of the time, but it is still something to be considered… (here: I’m handing back the can-opener;-))

    THANK you — YES! — for reminding everyone (but this may be like “preachin’ to the choir” on this blog!) that instruments are to accompany and support singers — never to drown them out!

    Finally (for now!) I like your suggestion of a monthly “theme” chorus or hymn, as well as the idea of having a small vocal group present it the first time or two, to make it easier to learn. Not only does having a “theme” chorus sung regularly aid in better remembering the words & melody; it has the added benefit of encouraging a greater sense of unity & warmth (I believe the “official” term is “warm fuzzies”) to the entire congregation. (And what congregation couldn’t use that?!) THANKS again for your work…

    Eagerly awaiting the galleon blog (with or without caricatures…) 😆

    p.s. THANKS, too, for including a cappella singing! With the advent of overhead-projected music & power-pointed music, many people are missing the words of the great hymns AND the harmony ~ and have no clue how to sing the harmony “by ear”, so unfamiliar the old hymns have become! Blessings and THANKS-givings to God for this blog! Keep up the good work!

    • rcottrill
      4 March 2010 @ 9:23 am

      Wonderful blog–and I had some good laughs along the way. (You may notice that I edited out the paragraph describing my Sunday doodles. Didn’t want to lead others astray.) But it reminded me of something that happened when our son (now a missionary in Mexico, with his wife Shari) was a little boy. I was preaching, and my wife Beth was in the pew, with our son, who was drawing or colouring a picture. Suddenly, he started jerking his head upward, and my wife whispered, “What on earth are you doing?” Said Jim, “I’m lifting up my head.” (I was speaking on Ps. 24 with its “Life up your heads, O you gates!”) My point is that it is possible to draw and listen–even for children in church.

      As to the use of “canned music” for the Prelude to worship, I certainly wasn’t suggesting that we do away with the instrumentalists. But it can be a refreshing change, used occasionally. My wife plays beautifully, and she’s our usual accompanist. But we have occasionally used a music video, with beautiful scenery and edifying music, as folks enter–and Beth is delighted to enjoy this along with the rest of us.

      One more point, somewhat related to the P.S. about singing in harmony. In the 19th century, Singing Schools were common. Folks learned to sing, to sing a part, and read music. I believe churches would be well served to conduct a program like that. It could even be advertised as a community event–a variation on the Community Hymn Sing. (One time I led one of those and had the folks sit in sections: soprano (and melody singers), alto, tenor and bass. It worked quite well.) And see my newly posted article, Singing in Harmony.

      Months ago a reader asked me if I knew of a program to teach singing to church groups. It took me some time to track down, but there is such a thing. Bob Jones University has produced it, and there’s both a leader’s and students manual. I know of one woman who’s used it, and recommends the material, though I’ve yet to see it myself. You can check it out at…
      http://www.bjupress.com/product/055160?path=87128

  5. Steven
    30 June 2010 @ 6:55 am

    Mr. Robert, I wrote in your blog about 2 months ago, sharing with you about the event called: HYMN APPRECIATION NIGHT (for Youth).

    Well, now the event is being prepared and the committee has been very busy now. By the way, I am the leader of the committee, and there are a few questions I would like to ask:

    I have no idea how to promote this event. As you know, the event such as praise and worship night is very popular. Almost every church (their youth especially) hold this kind of event. But, they don’t use hymns. They use contemporary songs with bands playing out loud. While what we are trying to do is totally the opposite. We sing hymns accompanied by orchestra. It’s quite classical, I think. While youth’s interest now is not on the classical stuffs.

    What can I do to get this youth’s attention? Moreover, how can I change their worldview to make them able to appreciate hymns? What kind of publication and advertisement I can use to attract them?

    I think that’s all. It’s nice to have a person like you who has same opinion and worldview. Thanks for letting me share all these burdens in my mind.

    God bless you.

    • rcottrill
      30 June 2010 @ 8:26 am

      Thanks for getting in touch. I assume you’ve had a look at my article on how to plan a Community Hymn Sing. It will give you ideas with regard to promotion. Posters in appropriate places, in the church and around town, are a help. And bulletin inserts several weeks in advance.

      As to how you can promote this event among the youth, that is not so easy. If they haven’t been taught over a period of time to appreciate the great hymns of the church, you are not likely going to convince them to come all of a sudden. I had one teen say to me, bluntly, “If it ain’t got drums and guitars, I ain’t interested!” (Well, at least he was honest!) If you have a youth program in your church, and the youth leader is well-liked, he/she may be able to promote the event among the teen-agers and convince some to give it a try. You could do something similar if there are one or two guys and girls among the young people who are themselves popular, and who’d be willing to encourage others to come.

      The program itself is going to be a key as well. If a few teens do come, will they be interested in coming to the next one? Would they be willing to invite friends to join them? (If it turns them off, you’re sunk!) You say the program planned is “quite classical.” But if every number is like that, it will not likely appeal to many young people. You don’t have to descend to loud bands and mindless contemporary songs, but you should be able to vary the program with some upbeat gospel songs. Tell the story of Luther Bridgers, and sing “He Keeps Me Singing.” Or use other upbeat gospel songs (and don’t sing them too slowly): “A New Name in Glory,” “There Shall Be Showers of Blessing,” “Springs of Living Water,” “Since Jesus Came Into My Heart,” and so on. (Pick ones your own congregation is familiar with.)

      Or what about singing “Count Your Blessings,” and in the middle of it, doing the Wave? Do you know what I mean by that? At football games, it starts at the end of a row, with one person standing up and sitting down, followed by the one next to them quickly doing the same, and the next, and the next. It’s a lot of fun–and it does look a little like a wave traveling along. Well, this version would be to stand up and mention–let’s say, in no more than 3 words, something you thank God for. Go back and forth along the rows, until the whole church has participated. Then, maybe sing the final stanza of the song.

      You will know whether your folks would be willing to do this kind of thing. But you need to do some things to loosen up the evening and make it fun. An evening of hymn singing shouldn’t be deadly dull. Give a listen to what the Cathedral Quartet does with the tune of “O Happy Day!” It’s done just for fun, and those present sure seem to be enjoying it. Or, another example: Here’s a Bluegrass rendition of the hymn Tell It to Jesus. Wow! Great, toe-tapping music. (That boy can sure play–and sing, too!) But I sense a real sincerity from this group.

      One more tip: If you sing a hymn that includes an unfamiliar word, one that the young people will not likely know, take a moment to explain the meaning. Then all can sing with understanding–something the Bible exhorts us to do.

      Do you have young people in your orchestra? (If not, that points to a longer range project!) Or what about inviting a guest instrmentalist or soloist–a young person who plays or sings the kind of music you are trying to promote. If you can find a quartet of attractive young men, or a trio of attractive young ladies that sings hymn arrangements in a suitable style, why not invite them to take part.

      Well, there are a few ideas off the top of my balding head. Some may not work for you. But see what you can do, and let me know how it turns out.

  6. Steven
    22 July 2010 @ 10:28 pm

    Hi, Mr. Robert! It’s me again. I would like to know if you could help me in providing the materials I need for 2 videos to be published on that Hymn Appreciation Night.

    The first video is about “the introduction to hymns”. The video is going to tell us in brief: what hymns are, what’s so special about hymns, etc. This video is going to be shown at the very beginning of the event.

    While the second video is going to be shown after the sermon. Actually, I myself have no idea on the topic of this second video. But, I think, it’ll talk about our appropriate response to hymns (how to appreciate, sing them, etc.). Could you help me on this?

    Oh, just an additional information the theme of this event is: “O For A Thousand Tongues to Sing”. Maybe it could give you a global view of our event.

    I’m sorry to make you busy with this. But, I think I can only ask you for help on this. For you’re the only appropriate expert I know.

    Thanks before and may God bless your ministry.

    • rcottrill
      23 July 2010 @ 7:00 am

      Thanks for getting in touch. I’m afraid I’m not able to help you make videos. That’s not my area of expertise. And I’m not exactly sure why you want to use videos. Putting something like that together would be a lot of work. Could you not simply tell people what you want them to know–perhaps with one or two examples played on tape, or even on the piano? You will find lots of material in the Topics section of this blog–for example, see Hymns and the Bible, or What Makes a Good Hymn?

      I wish you well with the project. And one further tip. Keep any comments short, so that the focus is on singing. Anything more than a couple of segments 3 to 5 minutes is likely too long.

  7. Steven
    23 July 2010 @ 8:56 am

    It’s me again. I’m sorry for my unclear explanation before. Don’t worry about the video because I got some people (expert in this) going to make them for me. The problem is, these people need materials from me.

    Once again, don’t worry about the videos. Perhaps, I only need answers from you (from an expert) on these questions:

    1 What are hymns?
    2 What’s so special about hymns?
    3 Why we should appreciate hymns?
    4 How to appreciate them in an appropriate way?

    Just don’t mind if the answers will be theoretical or difficult to understand. I and my team are going to work on it again. I need answers from you because my knowledge on this is very poor, or perhaps you can give me link or reference to any valuable source.

    Thanks and God bless your ministry.

    • rcottrill
      23 July 2010 @ 10:24 am

      Well, my answer is the same as before. You’ll find all kinds of material in my Topics section. As to “What are hymns?”, check out the article Hymns and Gospel Songs. To understand what’s special about our hymns, and why we should appreciate them, see The Value of the Hymn Book. In dealing with how our appreciation can grow, you could divide material between church use and home use. To foster a love for hymns and gospel songs in church, use some of the suggestions in 30 Ideas for Promoting Hymn Singing, and teach the key principle in Worship in Song.

      As to home use, each family (or single person) should have a copy of the church’s hymnal at home (one they purchased, of course 🙂 ). Hymns can be read in individual or family devotions, or sung as a family. It would also be great to have a couple of books on hymn history at home (Ken Osbeck has produced several). Then, the stories behind the hymns can be shared as a family. Another idea is to use the home hymnal as a kind of autograph book. Have guests in the home sign their names next to their favourite hymn. It could be a great family memento.

  8. kayatchen
    22 December 2010 @ 12:02 am

    Send information on how I could help to support young people to love traditional hymns. Are there any churches actually doing that? Could one visit to verify and give financial support?

    • rcottrill
      22 December 2010 @ 12:43 pm

      Thanks for your question. The article 30 Ideas for Promoting Hymn Singing is intended to provide some answers. The various tips and suggestions will help to make hymn singing more interesting and enjoyable for all, not just the youth.

      If a church has a long tradition of hymn singing, the job is easier. But if the leadership has fallen for the idea that we have to be modern and contemporary, and leave those old songs behind, then the solution will take more time, and pray-filled patient effort. As pointed out (#29 in the list), it will help if families learn to love the hymns of the church, and make use of them at home in family devotions. Children will then grow up knowing and loving them. We also need more Bible colleges that teach hymnology and our traditional hymns, and don’t simply cater to sometimes worldly youthful tastes.

      The people who post comments on my blog–over 75,000 of them as of now, from all over the world–tell me there are many who love the old hymns and gospel songs, and many who attend churches that still use them. As to finding churches in your own area that do, I’ll have to leave that to you, but I can give you an example from my own experience.

      One time my wife and I were staying in the city of Calgary, Alberta, Canada, for several weeks. We wanted to find a good church to attend while we were there. I looked in the phone book (our Yellow Pages), and found a church advertisement that caught my eye. I forget the exact wording, but it said something like: “We sing the old hymns and use godly Christian music.” I phoned the pastor, and knew immediately that we were in agreement on many things. We’ve attended that church several times, over the years, and always been blessed by the wonderful singing. The pastor and his wife have become great friends of ours.

      God bless you, as you continue to investigate and learn.

  9. gracereigns
    22 December 2010 @ 2:50 pm

    “We also need more Bible colleges that teach hymnology and our traditional hymns, and don’t simply cater to sometimes worldly youthful tastes… looked in the phone book (our Yellow Pages), and found a church advertisement that caught my eye. I forget the exact wording, but it said something like: “We sing the old hymns…”

    Wow, Robert! These two suggestions alone are worth their weight in gold! 1) the Bible colleges: Many of them appear to have abdicated their responsibility to take seriously that they are educating (training is what is done to animals, not people ;-)) the next generation. Perhaps if Christian colleges/universities in the previous generation had been more diligent on this count, there would be far more churches and fellowships *presently* valuing the great old hymns and gospel songs.

    2) The “yellow pages” idea’s outstanding! (like farmers here in the Midwest, out in their fields…) I imagine that many Bible-believing churches are “all about” stating that they believe/preach/teach the Bible, and include a small map of where their church is located when they have yellow page ads, but my guess is that it has occurred to far fewer churches to *specifically* state that they love and sing the “old traditional hymns”! Maybe someone reading this will share this idea with everyone on their e-mail list who is in ministry! — gracie;-)

  10. Ellen
    4 March 2011 @ 3:23 pm

    I didn’t have time to read the whole article, but here is my dilemma. My granddad taught me music through hymns in the ’50’s and early ’60’s. I continued singing in choir and did some solo and duet work.

    MY present church may fold soon, and I’ve been looking around to see which churches still sing traditionnal hymns. FEW in the Dallas TX area do.

    The new rock band type music in churches reminds me of being in a bar. I just don’t need that, since I’m 20 years sober, and protect it with everything I have.

    The traditional hymns are very healing to me, and I think if people would actually sing them and study them, their meaning and history, they might feel differently. Those hymns helped raise generations pretty well.

    My favorite part of one hymn (In The Garden) says “…and He walks with me, and He talks with me and He tells me I AM HIS OWN” To me I don’t need a lot more.

    Pray for me that I find a church that sings those wonderful hymns. Dallas is a wasteland almost in this.

    • rcottrill
      4 March 2011 @ 3:41 pm

      I do sympathize with your problem. But being far away in Canada, I have little knowledge of Dallas churches. If I were there, I’d probably try Scofield Memorial Church. From their website, I see that they follow a “blended” worship style, which means a blending of old and new music. But if it involves blaring rock, I couldn’t take it, either. I’m going to check with an American friend, and see if I can come up with any suggestions. Meanwhile, keep trying. Dallas has a lot of churches, that I do know. I pray that the Lord will guide you.

      • Ellen
        7 March 2011 @ 10:53 am

        God always stays with me, even when I’m not in a church. The Scofield church in Texas has very few places for women to serve. Ih the Disciples church I attend women can be elders, deacons, read scripture in service and even preach.

        The preaching I personally feel is better done by men, but there must be a place for female ministers. Often women (and sometimes men) don’t want to talk with a male minister.

        I know I will find something if my church closes. My g randdad told me to always be in church Sunday mornings to worship our Lord. He didn’t care which church, just be there. Granddad was very , very wise…..and didn’t think himself so.

        FYI: Often when you see “blended service” in a Dallas church, it means 90% contemporary and maybe a verse of an older hymn.

        Thank you for the reply. As my aunt Adelyn used to say:

        “May God hold you close” Ellen

        • rcottrill
          7 March 2011 @ 2:23 pm

          Thanks for your input. (I’ve contacted an American pastor to see what I can find out about other churches in the Dallas area.) And you’re absolutely right in your comment about “blended services.” That’s about the percentage I’ve seen too–a service focusing on contemporary choruses, with maybe a token hymn (and sometimes not the whole hymn, just a verse or two).

          However, your comments on women pastors raises another issue. Yes, I agree that women will often be more comfortable talking to another woman about their problems. And the Bible does seem to leave room for women to serve as deaconesses (Rom. 16:1-2). However, the elders (pastors) of the church are always and only men (I Tim. 3:1-7). That may not be politically correct in current culture, but I believe it is God’s design.

  11. Charles
    19 January 2012 @ 12:00 pm

    Thanks for posting this, I look forward to reading your insights into hymns.

    • rcottrill
      19 January 2012 @ 12:43 pm

      Thanks Charles. And as you can see, the article has now grown past the “30” in the title. If you come across ideas that work, please pass them on, so I can share them with Wordwise Hymns worldwide readership.

  12. EYOB
    22 May 2012 @ 12:21 pm

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION ON THIS PROGRAM

  13. Abby
    31 January 2013 @ 8:06 am

    Wow, what a fantastic list of ideas. Thank you for the time you put into this website. It’s such a blessing. I wrote a blog post today on The Importance of Hymns and linked to you as a resource.

    http://www.littlebirdieblessings.blogspot.com/2013/01/scripture-thursday-importance-of-hymns.html

    • rcottrill
      31 January 2013 @ 8:47 am

      Thanks for your comment. Your enthusiasm is encouraging. Let’s hope it’s contagious! 🙂 And if you think of other ideas for promoting hymns, let me know. I may be able to include them on the list.